faelyn
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Post by faelyn on Jul 20, 2016 0:26:09 GMT
It feels like trapped emotions - "Ti, stop being so dispassionate!" However, one of my gifts seems to be the ability to strip away the "fluff" and really express the discernible qualities of others, especially in written form. When you can meticulously compliment or encourage someone, it can be a wonderful thing. Amsterdam, I can relate so much with this. I hope it's okay if I take this topic into its own thread..? The enormous gap between my feelings and expressions is sometimes so large a contrast that it makes me wonder if I can even offer other people proper care. Given the time to write out my thoughts with intention, in just the way I wish to say things, is the only way I can convey anything that resembles my true opinion. But in physical form my words are always bland and sound a bit disingenuous somehow. To further complicate matters, I find that the type of affection I wish to give (i.e. love language) is intense and honest. I don't express love with humor or wit very well, but through transparency. I wonder if this is something other TiNe's experience..? Knowing reality to its deepest layers, knowing every crevice of reality (the ideal of Ti) translates over to me into a desire for absolute and true knowing of others. Not just knowledge of what they're about, but who they are underneath. I usually find that my approach is quite a bit disquieting to some people. I risk coming across as creepy. But to me I just feel like life should be known this way... and I wish for a world where this degree of other-knowing was more common and we weren't walking about interacting with shells of each other. I.. don't know if any of this makes sense. <.< |
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Post by amsterdam on Jul 20, 2016 16:21:05 GMT
It makes perfect sense, as you describe my experience as well. Comforting to know I'm not alone in my experiences and approach to life...
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shieru
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Post by shieru on Jul 20, 2016 19:35:23 GMT
This makes perfect sense to me as well. Even my sincerest expression in real-time feels like an act, it's as though the 'real me' is always standing at a distance observing Fe's tactics. It hardly ever seems like I've communicated the way I actually feel.
A strategy I've adopted to try to compensate for this somewhat is using other creative means besides speech to communicate. I've always been able to express passion through art, and somewhat through poetry and music, and so when I really want to let someone know how much I appreciate them, I'll create something for them which embodies their essence and my feelings toward them. This is a method that takes a great deal of time/care, and usually involves a series of creative projects. It takes resources that I don't always have, but I do try to execute things in this way since I consider it the most accurate form of expression.
Another alternative is offering a thoughtful, polished written expression, as you both have mentioned. This, though, seems to still lose some of the nuance of the heart/soul, words can be limiting. This may be due to my own limitations in articulation though, it's not necessarily my strong point.
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faelyn
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Post by faelyn on Aug 24, 2016 8:58:50 GMT
...w-why not use this forum as an experiment? would you guys like to participate in a deeper inquiry of each other? i have always wondered what it would be like to meet other TiNe and whether they would also be unafraid. the way I feel, truth isn't something I ever fear. And the truth of others is something that can only be educational.
p.s. reposted by request...! <.<
how... hypocritical of me to take it down, considering what i said... *fails own values!*
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Post by amsterdam on Aug 24, 2016 12:39:02 GMT
No worries faelyn - just let us know what you had in mind...
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shieru
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Post by shieru on Aug 24, 2016 16:38:28 GMT
i think i understand what you're expressing, fae. from what i know of how the Ti/Fe duality operates, it can create an interesting paradox. while Ti is dispassionate and perhaps even eager for reality in whatever form it may manifest in, Fe has fears which represent the parameters of its framework for social interfacing. and so, even though fundamentally the truth is the main point, when it comes to discovering the truth of other humans, or communicating about reality with them, these social fears come into play in order to attempt intelligent communication.
but is this necessary? can communication be fully transparent without unwanted repercussion if those involved solely desire truth? i have long wanted to know the answer to this question as well. as such, i would love to participate with you in an experiment(s) to find out ^^
that said.. do you have any specific exercises in mind for how we might share?
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